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Thoughts, emotions, theories // Pensamentos, emoções, teorias

 



This week I read 1 Corinthians 14.  It is about spiritual gifts. Every person gets one or more. It doesn’t need to be the same for everybody, as many want me to think.

I understand the spiritual gifts are much more for building up the Church of Christ than just for my own benefit (1 Cor 14:6-17). Paul talks a lot about it.

I get that thrill, the wave of emotions that comes when you feel the Spirit moving you. But sometimes I think it is more about physiology than purely spiritual. You see, the music, the beat, the chords, and all about the music can be made to excite you or to make you feel sad. Music is made to change your emotions. The wave sounds (I don’t exactly know how, but they do) can change something in your brain and change your behavior and emotions.

So yes, you can feel very emotional in the church when you are singing songs of Worship, and also it can be the Holy Spirit. If it were the Holy Spirit, people would leave the church very transformed, and that does not always happen.

Why am I talking about this? I am not criticizing any church in particular. Music does these things, music of praise or not. Just like when we watch a scene in a movie and the song behind the scene moves up together with the scene. It makes us feel what we are supposed to feel when watching it.

Things that you can feel but you can’t see, they might come from “different” sources and have different effects on you. 

But what I really want to tell you is what I’ve read in one of C.S. Lewis’ books (Surprised by Joy). I’ll quote.

“… we had been, in the technical sense of the term, “realists”; that is, we accept as rock-bottom reality, the universe revealed by senses. But at the same time, we continued to make for certain phenomena of consciousness all the claims that really went with a theistic or idealistic view. We maintained that abstract thought (if obedient to logical rules) gave indisputable truth, that our moral judgment was “valid,” and our aesthetic experience not merely pleasing but valuable. Barfield convinced me that it was inconsistent. If thought were a purely subjective event, these claims for it would have to be abandoned. If one kept (as rock-bottom reality) the universe of the senses, aided by instruments and co-ordinated so as to form “science”, then one would have to go much further – as many have since gone – and adopt a Behavioristic theory of logic, ethics and aesthetics (…) Idealism was then the dominant philosophy at Oxford and I was by nature “against Government”. But partly, too, realism satisfied an emotional need. I wanted Nature to be quite independent, self-existing. (…) I suspect there was some willful blindness. But there were in those days all sorts of blankets, insulators, and insurances which enable one to get all the conveniences of Theism, without believing in God.”

I say that our senses are as real as God is. If you love or hate it is because something inside of you changed. You let it change you. You allowed. You choose to love or to hate something or someone based on your experience; yet you don’t see it, you can feel it, and you let it flood your mind with good or bad thoughts. Thoughts! Where do they come from?  Who taught you how to think? You think, you speak, and you feel. It is inherent in your body. But you don’t see it, do you?

All that Nature gives you, you want it to be independent. Self-existing as Lewis also wished it to. But deep down, you know who made it, and it is the same power that made you. That gave you the skill to think and feel.

You can be a rationalist, an Atheist, a materialist, whatever you want to believe or how you choose to organize your thoughts, but you know there are a lot of things that your so-loved Science (I hate referring to Science as if it is something that can speak by itself. Scientists (people, human beings) work with their brains, thoughts and tools and they produce knowledge which we call science, therefore scientists can explain through their knowledge; speaking of Science as if it is a god I think it is to say the least, ridiculous) can’t explain and never will. Scientists can find out and create a lot of things from something that is already here. Tangible things. Things that your senses can reach.  What about those things that your senses can reach but Scientists can’t grasp? You know, the only thing that will make those things make any sense is that An All-Powerful Creator of Everything exists, the One we call God.

Where our thoughts come from, which is the source of them, they come from the material world or are elicited by our mind. If the latter, do they come from a preconceived knowledge, do they come from the emotion, or do they come from God If from knowledge, they come from the material world and our experience; if from emotion, they come by what the environment and previous experience elicit, but if they come from God, we can recognize them as such by their effect in ourselves: they edify and transform us and around us.

By Hadassa and Juan Hertz

 

Esta semana, li 1 Coríntios 14. É sobre dons espirituais. Cada pessoa recebe um ou mais. Não precisa ser igual para todos, como muitos querem que eu pense.

Entendo que os dons espirituais são muito mais para a edificação da Igreja de Cristo do que apenas para o meu próprio benefício (1 Coríntios 14:6-17). Paulo fala muito sobre isso.

Eu sinto aquela emoção, aquela onda de emoções que surge quando você sente o Espírito te movendo. Mas às vezes penso que é mais uma questão fisiológica do que puramente espiritual. Veja bem, a música, a batida, os acordes e tudo relacionado à música podem ser feitos para te excitar ou te fazer sentir triste. A música é feita para mudar suas emoções. Os sons das ondas (não sei exatamente como, mas mudam) podem mudar algo em seu cérebro e mudar seu comportamento e emoções.

Então, sim, você pode se sentir muito emocionado na igreja quando está cantando canções de adoração, e também pode ser o Espírito Santo. Se fosse o Espírito Santo, as pessoas sairiam da igreja muito transformadas, e isso nem sempre acontece.

Por que estou falando sobre isso? Não estou criticando nenhuma igreja em particular. A música faz essas coisas, seja música de louvor ou não. Assim como quando assistimos a uma cena de filme e a música por trás da cena se move junto com a cena. Ela nos faz sentir o que deveríamos sentir ao assistir.

Coisas que você pode sentir, mas não pode ver, podem vir de fontes "diferentes" e ter efeitos diferentes sobre você. 

Mas o que eu realmente quero dizer a vocês é o que li em um dos livros de C.S. Lewis (Surpreso pela Alegria). Vou citar.

 “… éramos, no sentido técnico do termo, “realistas”; isto é, aceitamos como realidade básica o universo revelado pelos sentidos. Mas, ao mesmo tempo, continuamos a fazer, para certos fenômenos da consciência, todas as afirmações que realmente condiziam com uma visão teísta ou idealista. Sustentamos que o pensamento abstrato (se obediente às regras lógicas) fornecia uma verdade indiscutível, que nosso julgamento moral era “válido” e nossa experiência estética não apenas agradável, mas valiosa. Barfield me convenceu de que isso era inconsistente. Se o pensamento fosse um evento puramente subjetivo, essas afirmações a seu respeito teriam que ser abandonadas. Se alguém mantivesse (como realidade básica) o universo dos sentidos, auxiliado por instrumentos e coordenado de modo a formar “ciência”, então seria preciso ir muito além – como muitos já fizeram – e adotar uma teoria behaviorista de lógica, ética e estética (...) O idealismo era então a filosofia dominante em Oxford e eu era, por natureza, “contra o Governo”. Mas, em parte, também, o realismo satisfazia uma necessidade emocional. Eu queria que a Natureza fosse bastante independente, autoexistente. (...) Suspeito que houvesse alguma cegueira intencional. Mas havia naquela época todos os tipos de cobertores, isolantes e seguros que permitiam obter todas as conveniências do teísmo, sem acreditar em Deus.”

Eu digo que nossos sentidos são tão reais quanto Deus. Se você ama ou odeia, é porque algo dentro de você mudou. Você deixou que isso o mudasse. Você permitiu. Você escolhe amar ou odiar algo ou alguém com base em sua experiência; no entanto, você não vê, você pode sentir e deixa que isso inunde sua mente com pensamentos bons ou ruins. Pensamentos! De onde eles vêm? Quem te ensinou a pensar? Você pensa, você fala e você sente. É inerente ao seu corpo. Mas você não vê, vê?

Tudo o que a Natureza lhe dá, você quer que seja independente. Autoexistente, como Lewis também desejou. Mas, no fundo, você sabe quem o fez, e é o mesmo poder que o fez. Que lhe deu a habilidade de pensar e sentir. Você pode ser racionalista, ateu, materialista, seja lá o que você quiser acreditar ou como escolher organizar seus pensamentos, mas você sabe que há muitas coisas que a sua tão amada Ciência (odeio me referir à Ciência como se fosse algo que fala por si só. Cientistas (pessoas, seres humanos) trabalham com seus cérebros, pensamentos e ferramentas e produzem conhecimento que chamamos de ciência, portanto, os cientistas podem explicar por meio de seu conhecimento; falar da Ciência como se fosse um deus, acho que é, no mínimo, ridículo) não consegue explicar e nunca conseguirá. Cientistas podem descobrir e criar muitas coisas a partir de algo que já está aqui. Coisas tangíveis. Coisas que seus sentidos podem alcançar. E aquelas coisas que seus sentidos podem alcançar, mas os cientistas não conseguem captar? Sabe, a única coisa que fará essas coisas fazerem sentido é que existe um Criador Todo-Poderoso de Tudo, Aquele que chamamos de Deus.

De onde vêm nossos pensamentos? Qual é a fonte deles? Eles vêm do mundo material ou são evocados pela nossa mente. Se for o último caso, elas vêm de um conhecimento preconcebido, vêm da emoção ou vêm de Deus? Se vêm do conhecimento, vêm do mundo material e da nossa experiência; se vêm da emoção, vêm do que o ambiente e a experiência anterior suscitam; mas se vêm de Deus, podemos reconhecê-los como tais pelo seu efeito em nós: eles nos edificam e transformam, assim como o que nos cerca.

Por Hadassa e Juan Hertz

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